Srila Prabhupada on Becoming Self Independent
What follows is a short list of quotes related to becoming self independent, and doing this by growing ones own food.
Over and over Srila Prabhupada stresses the great importance of making ones own personal lifestyle as simple as possible. And of the benefits that this lifestyle provides to oneself--the most important of which is ---more TIME for spiritual life. Since real life is spiritual life, the best way towards that goal is to minimize ones daily wants and needs, and a very important step of that is done by growing one's own food.
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... Yes, naturally. If this man is fed up with this industry, he can
go back to village and produce his own food. But he is attached to
this industrial activity because he is thinking that "We are getting
more money for wine and woman and meat. Let me enjoy." That is the
perfect, imp... But if he chants Hare Krsna maha-mantra, his
consciousness will be purified and he will be made not interested this
kind of work. He will go back to village and
produce food.
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... That is yajna. So in the Kali-yuga the yajna is made very easy.
Chant Hare Krsna. So anywhere you go, chant Hare Krsna, and see that
there will be clouds, there will be rainfall, and just work little,
you get your foodgrains, and chant Hare Krsna.
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eatables to the animals and to the men, then everything is prosperous.
So where is that arrangement? There is enough land, enough
possibility, enough water. Now utilize them and produce food grain,
eat nicely and live peacefully and chant Hare Krsna and go back to
home, back to Godhead. This is our philosophy. Why there should be
industry? You want to eat after all. Instead of eating this flesh,
killing poor animals, why don't you produce food grains, fruits,
flowers, food grain, and take milk from the animals and produce milk
products, all nutritious food, all nice food, and be happy and
remember God for His kindness. This is civilization. What is this
nonsense civilization? Now there is petrol problem. I see so many
buses, and not a single man, one or two men. And for two men a big
huge bus is being run, and so much petrol is consumed unnecessarily. I
have seen. I went from Nairobi to London in a plane--only five
passengers. Out of that, four passengers we were. Why? Why this
nonsense? And there is petrol problem now. They are creating simply,
the so-called advancement of civilization, creating problems, that's
all. And that is due to these rascal leaders. Andha yathandhair
upaniyamanas te 'pisa-tantryam uru-damni baddhah. They do not know
what is the ideal of life, what is the aim of life. They are creating
hodge-podge civilization and putting the mass of people in chaotic
condition. This is the sum and substance. I do not know whether you'll
agreed with me, but this is my study of the whole situation.
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Prabhupada: Yes. (break) ...encouraging in our society to take to
agriculture to support this center. I am purchasing land in Vrndavana
and Mayapura to become self-sufficient. Whatever production you make,
you be satisfied. Little vegetable, little grain and little milk. That
is sufficient.
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Prabhupada: Yes, that was Gandhi's philosophy, village organization.
These people, they are attracting villagers to work in the factory,
and they are exploiting them.... our philosophy. Make your life
successful. By becoming Krsna conscious, you become free from all
these troubles of material condition. This is our education. Don't be
after these motorcars, television, and all nonsense things, sporting,
wine, women. Don't be after these. Simply eat sufficiently, keep your
health nicely, chant Hare Krsna, realize Krsna, and go back to home This is our philosophy...
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Prabhupada: Stick to your own place and grow your food. There is no
question of transport. Little transport is required, that bullock
cart. Krsna was being carried on bullock cart. There is no use of
petrol. Use simply the bull. They are already there. Utilize them.
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Dhananjaya: So in fact, Srila Prabhupada, we should start using
bullock carts.
Prabhupada: Yes. No, first of all you start the community project, as
we have already started in New Vrindaban. Make this perfect.
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newspaper, nonsense newspaper, huge, huge quantity? So everything will
be nice provided you become ideal. Live in community. Produce your own
food. Even you can produce your own paper. You don't require printing
of so many books. If there is one book, others can ...
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... Keep amongst yourself and produce. Produce food
grain, produce cotton, mustard seed. Self dependent, no use... And we
don't require motorcar. Bullock cart is sufficient. There is no need
of going anywhere...
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Prabhupada: No, no. These varieties... Suppose you grow half a dozen
different types of vegetables. So from this half a dozen you can make
three dozen varieties. If you are a good cooker. So the varieties of
enjoyment will be fulfilled. We have got some desire of different
quality of varieties. That you can make. From milk, vegetable, grains,
the three things, you
can make three hundred varieties.
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Prabhupada: Yes, it will go on, but when they will see that your ideal
community is better than city life, people will take to it. Param
drstva nivartate. When one gets a better standard of life, naturally
he will give up the lower standard of life.
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So you have to set up real human society in a small scale so people will
see, "Yes." Because man has got intelligence. Just like, although I am
... my preaching. So why you are coming? So if you stick to your
position, real human civilization, people will come, gradually.
Because they have got the sense....
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Prabhupada: No, there is no question of extended. You keep yourself in
a limited solution. And then, when it is appreciated it will be
automatically extended. You don't touch the extended. You become ideal
civilized man. Others will follow.
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Prabhupada: Wasteful, yes. Therefore I say they have no brain. All,
they are rascals. Rascal leaders. A little labor in agriculture will
be sufficient to produce the family's food stock for the whole year.
You can stock. You work only three months, and you get sufficient food
for your whole family. And less nine months, you chant Hare Krsna. But
these rascals will not do that. They will work hard like ass simply
for eating. Nunam pramattah kurute vikarma yad indriya-pritaya
aprnoti. They will not accept easy life.
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Prabhupada: Sacrifice means to satisfy God. So you satisfy God. By
God's mercy there will be sufficient rain. And when there is
sufficient rain you produce sufficient food, food grains, and both th
animals and men eat and live in God consciousness.
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Prabhupada: No, we have to make this propaganda because we are servant
of Krsna. And Krsna orders, krsi-go-raksya-vanijyam. So we must take
to agricultural work to produce food and give protection to the cows.
And if there is excess product, we trade. This simple thing we must
do. Therefore I'm anxious to take outside Paris this center. Our
people should live there peacefully, produce food grains, give
protection to the cows, and work hard. And if there is excess product,
you can make money also.
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Therefore I'm anxious to take outside Paris this center. Our
people should live there peacefully, produce food grains, give
protection to the cows, and work hard. And if ... this point. We can
make good money. We'll not be loser. Krsna conscious men, they'll be
never loser by following the instruction of Krsna. They'll live
comfortably without any material want, and tyaktva deham punar janma
naiti, and after leaving this body, go to, directly back to home...
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Prabhupada: My idea is that all our centers should be self-supported.
We do not like that idea that for your support you have to go 100
miles to get your bread. That is a very dangerous drawback. You
produce your food locally and then support yourself. The main problem
is what to eat, where to sleep. So we get some place and support
ourself by producing our own food. We have already begun in New
Vrindaban, New..., West Virginia, Virginia, and similarly in other
centers, we are producing our food, grains, vegetables, fruits and
milk. That is sufficient.
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Prabhupada: Most unnatural life. City life, most unnatural.
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Prabhupada: (laughs) Yes. Murkhayopadeso hi prakopaya na santaye.
If you advise rascals, they'll be angry. No good result. Murkhayopadeso hi prakopaya na santaye,
payah-panam bhujanganam kevalam visa-vardhanam. So we have to become
very strong preacher. Then this movement will stay. If you simply take
the temple worship, it will not stay very
long. Just like...
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... don't distribute. You live only, till the ground and take your
food. Where is the question of distribution? Whatever you can till,
you take so much land. God has enough land. Why do you possess more?
One acre of land is sufficient
for producing your food. Why do you take more?
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There are so many land. Come here and grow food. Grow
fruit. That is... That is the desire of Krsna. Annad bhavanti bhutani.
Produce food and eat in sufficiently, be strong, and chant Hare Krsna.
That is our philosophy. Why you are producing bolts and nuts, tire and
tubes? Eat. Rascal. They do not know that first of all you must eat.
No, everyone is engaged in industry. Why? Krsna does not say that
"Take to industry." Krsna says, "Produce foodstuff." Annad bhavanti
bhutani. If you produce foodstuff, then both your animals, yourself,
will be happy, becoming strong. Why do they manufacture other things?
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Prabhupada: Therefore we are offering this place. Come here. Why do
you not come here and live with us? Then this is... The Krsna
consciousness movement is... This is the movement, that you come here,
live with us, and produce your food, produce your milk, be happy,
healthy, and chant Hare Krsna. This is our movement. Therefore we are
creating New Vrindaban and farm, and we are trying to purchase... This
is our movement, that we give you sufficient food, shelter, health,
philosophy, religion, character, everything, purity. Come here. Why
don't you come? They come here on the weekdays, and then fly away, go
away. You see? We are giving such nice room, but they will not live
here. They will go to the hubble-bubble of the city. They like to come
here. Therefore they spend so much money for gas and ...
here. They will go to the hubble-bubble of the city. They like to come
here. Therefore they spend so much money for gas and come here. But
because they are not accustomed, they go back again. Return ticket.
From hell to heaven, and again hell (laughter) Return ticket--coming
back to hell again, not going back to God.
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Prabhupada: No, they're thinking that so many people are coming to the
cities, how we shall provide them? That's a problem. After all
government has to supply them rations. Where is so much foodstuff? And
if they are not supplied, then there will be resentment. That's a
fact. What they are doing in the city, so many scooter (makes motor
sound), going here and there. Actually no engagement. The girls are
loitering in the street by dressing. It will become more and more
problems, city life. So this is the solution, that they must go back
to the village. But they are trained up to enjoy the facilities,
so-called facilities, of the city. They are not going to village. But
if we can introduce this hari-sankirtana, and if they have little
taste, that is success. It's a great program. And that taste will
come--ceto-darpana-marjanam. If he simply becomes little sober that "I
want to eat, I have to sleep, I want some sense enjoyment and defense.
So if I can get easily in the village, why shall I go three hundred
miles away? Just keep in mind the psychology. So that simple life will
be possible if one is bhakta. Bhaktih paresanubhavo viraktir anyatra
syat. Only by devotion. Not by otherwise. Not by artificial means, by
manufacturing toilet. Only bhakti. If they get little attachment for
Krsna the questions will be solved automatically. And they will be
happy. Undoubtedly. That is the
Caitanya Mahaprabhu's first instruction. Ceto-darpana.
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Prabhupada: Yes, also. Otherwise, we have seen in our childhood how
happy people were. They were. Simple. If one has five rupees income
per month he's happy. I've seen it. Husband, wife, a small family. If
he has got five rupees income, they can maintain very nicely, happily.
Why not? Suppose he has got five rupees income. The rice was selling
at four rupees. So two person, say one-fourth kg., one-fourth share
each. A gentleman cannot eat more than that. So means half a share.
And the whole month, fifteen share. It is about one rupee eight annas.
And further, one rupees eight annas add for vegetables and other
things. With three rupees they can maintain, the husband and wife. And
two rupees still there. He can spend for other purposes. I have seen
it. Fresh vegetables, rice, this and... Just like with banana leaf.
The pots were of earthen, the wife is cooking and she's utilizing dry
foliage as fuel, a little temperature, everything is cooked. The
husband takes one banana leaf and spreads, and the wife gives
sufficient rice, vegetables. And things were so cheap. I have seen it.
And fresh.
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Prabhupada: Otherwise, within the village you can get everything.
Village economy. Everything very cheap. And as soon as they got these
transport facilities, the local men, they could not eat, and these
lazy rascals, they are getting everything. Big, big cities like
Calcutta, Bombay, they (have) millions of population. They are not
producing anything. The producer is different man. They are simply
artificially cheating them by paper money and they ...
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... other important members said, "Why Abhaya Babu is living
separately? He should be the president of the Bombay." I never said,
but they said. I was living separately. Then Prabhupada ... ll do
himself everything. You haven't got to recommend him." These very
words. (break) ...Krsna require any president or any GBC. He's giving
chance to everyone, that's all. Otherwise thousands of presidents and
thousands of GBC may come and go, His work will go on. Krsna is
complete Himself. He doesn't require anyone's help. That is Krsna.
(break) ...sei hetu pracara. One who has got life, he can preach.
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... Bhagavad-gita, krsi-go-raksya vanijyam vaisya-karma svabhava-jam.
That you must produce enough food grains by agriculture and give
protection to the cows. That means if you have got enough food grains
to eat and if you have got enough milk to get fatty substance, then
your whole economic question is solved. Annad bhavanti bhutani. If you
get sufficient food there is no question of agitation. Everyone is
satisfied. Animal and man. So you must produce. That is recommendation in the Bhagavad gita.
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Prabhupada: How they can defeat us? We have got so solid ground. How
they can defeat, these rascals? We consider them simply rascals and
fools. And we call them rascals and fools. What do they know of
religion? What do they know of God? They know slaughterhouse and
killing and illicit sex, and killing the fetus. That's all. What do
they know? They are not even civilized. We have come to make them
civilized. They should understand. They are not civilized. They do not
(know) how to eat even. The first principle of life is eating. They do
not know how to eat. We are teaching them how to eat. They simply
challenge, that's... When men are uncivilized, they do not how to grow
food, they kill animals in the jungle and eat. When they are
civilized, they know how to grow food now and the nice food grains,
fruit, flowers, now why should say, "You eat the meat." The
meat-eating is meant for the most uncivilized persons. That means they
do not know even how to eat. They do not know how to eat. How to eat,
how to sleep, how to have sex. Nothing. They're having sex like cats and dogs.
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Prabhupada: No, we don't care for Indians and Europeans. We care for
Krsna, that's all. I didn't care for anyone. I simply care ... s
protection, that's all. That is wanted. Guru-krsna-krpaya paya
bhakti-lata-bija. We want two favours. One from guru, one from Krsna.
That's all. We don't want anyone's favour.
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Prabhupada: :So people are being trained up to become mad, pramattah.
And do anything, bring money. This is the modern civilization. Nunam
pramattah kurute vikarma. Things which are forbidden, they are doing
that. Why? Indriya-pritaya aprnoti, only for sense gratification. They
have no other ambition. Bring money and gratify senses. This is modern
civilization. This is the exact explanation--nunam pramattah kurute
vikarma. Black money, white money, this money, that..., never mind,
bring money.
Indian Doctor: (laughter) By any way.
Prabhupada: Yes, this is modern civilization. Big man, big rich man
means bring money some way or other. This is big man. This is
Kali-yuga. Because if you have got money, you have got respect, you
have got honor, you are recognized. So therefore they are after money.
Bring money, that's all right. When I shall get money, I may have done
black money, force money, this money, nobody will remember it. Bas.
This is modern civilization. Bring money and enjoy sense. Nunam
pramattah kurute vikarma. What for it is, struggle so much working
hard? Yad indriya-pritaya. Only for the satisfaction of the senses.
They have no other ambition. Because most of them, they do not believe
there is next life. Most of them, 99.9 percent, they do not believe.
Big, big professor, I have talked with so many big, big men in Europe.
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Interviewer (5): You have some project here. Can you kindly explain
what is that?
Prabhupada: Our project is Bhagavad-gita, learn Bhagavad-gita and
apply it practically in your life.
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Prabhupada: Our project is Krsna consciousness. Come here, live
peacefully, keep your body fit, and work for yourself, you produce
your own food, you produce your own cloth, don't be very much anxious
for artificial
necessities, and save time, and be advanced in spiritual life.
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... little cottages, grow little vegetable, little barley or wheat and
milk. That is sufficient. We don't require much. We don't want luxury.
We want just to subsist. Yavad artha prayojana. We hate the idea of
luxury, unnecessary.
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... of how to utilize the whole land. The situation is very good, good
prospect. I want that self-independent here, as far as possible. But
you have got enough materials. With woods you can make cottages. Then
land becomes clear, then utilize it.
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Prabhupada: Plan is that we have got woods. Cut the woods, make small
cottages, and engage them for growing fruits, flowers, grains, and
make the complete arrengement nicely...
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And if there are several brahmanas, so each one of them will cook his own food. In
Calcutta, mostly the rich men they used to keep the collector's
darwans, they ... family, they used to take, accept the job. But each
of them, even in police, I have seen, they are cooking separately.
They take bath thrice, cook their own food, very strictly. The
government had to give them a big hall for cooking. So, it will not
take much space, say, little space. One small oven and demarcated:
"This, you see, is mine, and then I, you get, this is yours, this is
yours." So within that space they'll sit down and cook dal, capatis,
rice, one vegetable, and cook, and immediately all the utensils will
be cleansed and washed, and the space washed and kept. You'd like to
eat, they cook so nicely, although simple. And I have got practical
experience, if you cook your own food, whatever it may
be, it is healthy.
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.And they can make hundreds of devotees. In this
way we can expand. Are you realizing that there is no civilization?
Actually civilization we are introducing. Except Aryan civilization,
Vedic civilization, there is no civilization--animal society. What do
you think? Are you convinced about it?
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... peas, grow fresh. Eat very nicely, keep strong, drink milk, chant
Hare Krsna. Bas. Don't depend on this outside work and then gradually
become debauch, thief, rogues, prostitutes. Is that civilization? They
cannot imagine that ... go without all these things. Do they not?
Slaughterhouse, brothel, cheating, diplomacy, roguery,
drinking--without this, no civilization. We are quite opposed. We want
to show it is possible, yes. You can stop all this nonsense and still
you go on as a perfect civilized man. With character, knowledge,
satisfaction, everything......
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Prabhupada: So show the simple example that how by simple living and
thinking of Krsna, one can become perfect and
happy.
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Prabhupada: No, that work is recommended. Your question is how Krsna
is giving you instruction. Just like food, Krsna says annad bhavanti
bhutani. You produce anna. Krsna never said that you produce
tire tubes. Never says.
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... So we get enough milk, enough food grains, enough
fruits. So there is no economic problem. Our purpose is to save time
from unnecessary necessities of life, from unnecessary necessities of
life, to save time and utilize the time for developing Krsna
consciousness. And so far the body is concerned, as much as it ...
is required take and maintain the body. That's all.
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Prabhupada: Yes. Farming, agriculture, that is nice. There is a
proverb: agriculture is the noblest profession. Is it not said?
Agriculture is noblest, and Krsna was farmer, His father.
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... There will be more water for gardening, and it will be moist, and
then produce fodder for the animals and food for you. And animal gives
you milk. That is ... .. Don't bother about big, big buildings. It is
not required. Useless waste of time. Produce. Make the whole field
green. See that. Then whole economic question solved. Then you eat ...
is beneficial. Even the stool is beneficial. Therefore I am asking so
much here and..., "Farm, farm, farm, farm..." That is not my
program--Krsna's program. Annad bhavanti bhutani. Produce greenness
everywhere, everywhere. Vrndavana. It is not this motorcar
civilization.
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Prabhupada: All fresh vegetable, fresh milk, this is celestial. Who
has got the opportunity in the city? Automatically.
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Prabhupada: Production.... You take the total land as God's property,
and all the population, they are sons of God. Then whole problem
solved. Everything solved. If economic problem is solved, then social,
political, religious, philosophical, everything is solved.
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Prabhupada: Not only one, you hundreds of temples construct. Village
to village, town to.... At the same time, man. And it will
revolutionize the whole rascal situation. At the present moment, it is
rascal situation. They're simply satisfied by driving the motor....
putputputputputputputputput! (Prabhupada makes the sound of a roaring
motor). They are thinking, "Oh, how highly I am situated." All crazy.
But this has been taught to them that "This is civilization. If you
have got a motorcycle and you can come like the wild cat, (all laugh)
then you are civilized." They are thinking how great civilized they
are; we are thinking how wild cat he is. And what is the difference
between wild cat and running dog and this motorcycle? Put-put? What is
the difference?
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Prabhupada: A devotee will never accept materialism, even if he dies
of starvation. You'll see so many still. They are sticking ... that.
They don't care for any bodily care. "Some food comes; I shall eat.
Never mind." Still you'll find. They are sitting in their place and
chanting or meditating ...
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Prabhupada: Hm? Yes. So you have to preach all over the world that
"You are simply wasting time by so many department of knowledge. You
are so foolish, rascal." Srama eva hi kevalam. Simply wasting time. I
think I explained that to that gentleman last morning? He said in one
hour, two hour you should devote... Not two hour. Twenty-four hour.
Did I not say? Yes. Because that is the only business. We have no
other business. Our Society is practically demonstrating that this is
the only business and no other business. We therefore do not try even
to earn our livelihood. That is the natural instinct of every animal.
But we do not try even for that. Is it not?
Prabhupada: Yes. Let them see practically. We are not busy how to go
to the office, how to the business place. We are not interested. We
are simply interested for mangala arati, for class, for chanting,
dancing. That's all. Practically see. We are not going to any office
or any business.
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Prabhupada: No, no, no. That is not the fact. If you are actually
spiritually advanced, you don't care for it. Deha smrti nahi yar
samsara bandhana kahan tanra. It is just like Raghunatha dasa Gosvami.
He had no spiritual... er, material con... He was eating ... quantity
of butter. That's all. How he was living in Vrndavana? So when one is
perfectly on the spiritual platform, there is no bodily necessities.
That is the sign.[not to be imitated, however] Therefore our civilization is to decrease the bodily
necessities, not to increase. Control. Control, from the brahmacari,
control, control, control. Ultimately completely control. That is
perfectional stage. Tyagena.(renunciation)
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Over and over Srila Prabhupada stresses the great importance of making ones own personal lifestyle as simple as possible. And of the benefits that this lifestyle provides to oneself--the most important of which is ---more TIME for spiritual life. Since real life is spiritual life, the best way towards that goal is to minimize ones daily wants and needs, and a very important step of that is done by growing one's own food.
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... Yes, naturally. If this man is fed up with this industry, he can
go back to village and produce his own food. But he is attached to
this industrial activity because he is thinking that "We are getting
more money for wine and woman and meat. Let me enjoy." That is the
perfect, imp... But if he chants Hare Krsna maha-mantra, his
consciousness will be purified and he will be made not interested this
kind of work. He will go back to village and
produce food.
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... That is yajna. So in the Kali-yuga the yajna is made very easy.
Chant Hare Krsna. So anywhere you go, chant Hare Krsna, and see that
there will be clouds, there will be rainfall, and just work little,
you get your foodgrains, and chant Hare Krsna.
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eatables to the animals and to the men, then everything is prosperous.
So where is that arrangement? There is enough land, enough
possibility, enough water. Now utilize them and produce food grain,
eat nicely and live peacefully and chant Hare Krsna and go back to
home, back to Godhead. This is our philosophy. Why there should be
industry? You want to eat after all. Instead of eating this flesh,
killing poor animals, why don't you produce food grains, fruits,
flowers, food grain, and take milk from the animals and produce milk
products, all nutritious food, all nice food, and be happy and
remember God for His kindness. This is civilization. What is this
nonsense civilization? Now there is petrol problem. I see so many
buses, and not a single man, one or two men. And for two men a big
huge bus is being run, and so much petrol is consumed unnecessarily. I
have seen. I went from Nairobi to London in a plane--only five
passengers. Out of that, four passengers we were. Why? Why this
nonsense? And there is petrol problem now. They are creating simply,
the so-called advancement of civilization, creating problems, that's
all. And that is due to these rascal leaders. Andha yathandhair
upaniyamanas te 'pisa-tantryam uru-damni baddhah. They do not know
what is the ideal of life, what is the aim of life. They are creating
hodge-podge civilization and putting the mass of people in chaotic
condition. This is the sum and substance. I do not know whether you'll
agreed with me, but this is my study of the whole situation.
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►740525mw.rom Conversations
Prabhupada: Yes. (break) ...encouraging in our society to take to
agriculture to support this center. I am purchasing land in Vrndavana
and Mayapura to become self-sufficient. Whatever production you make,
you be satisfied. Little vegetable, little grain and little milk. That
is sufficient.
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Prabhupada: Yes, that was Gandhi's philosophy, village organization.
These people, they are attracting villagers to work in the factory,
and they are exploiting them.... our philosophy. Make your life
successful. By becoming Krsna conscious, you become free from all
these troubles of material condition. This is our education. Don't be
after these motorcars, television, and all nonsense things, sporting,
wine, women. Don't be after these. Simply eat sufficiently, keep your
health nicely, chant Hare Krsna, realize Krsna, and go back to home This is our philosophy...
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Prabhupada: Stick to your own place and grow your food. There is no
question of transport. Little transport is required, that bullock
cart. Krsna was being carried on bullock cart. There is no use of
petrol. Use simply the bull. They are already there. Utilize them.
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Dhananjaya: So in fact, Srila Prabhupada, we should start using
bullock carts.
Prabhupada: Yes. No, first of all you start the community project, as
we have already started in New Vrindaban. Make this perfect.
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newspaper, nonsense newspaper, huge, huge quantity? So everything will
be nice provided you become ideal. Live in community. Produce your own
food. Even you can produce your own paper. You don't require printing
of so many books. If there is one book, others can ...
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►740527mw.rom Conversations
... Keep amongst yourself and produce. Produce food
grain, produce cotton, mustard seed. Self dependent, no use... And we
don't require motorcar. Bullock cart is sufficient. There is no need
of going anywhere...
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►740527mw.rom Conversations
Prabhupada: No, no. These varieties... Suppose you grow half a dozen
different types of vegetables. So from this half a dozen you can make
three dozen varieties. If you are a good cooker. So the varieties of
enjoyment will be fulfilled. We have got some desire of different
quality of varieties. That you can make. From milk, vegetable, grains,
the three things, you
can make three hundred varieties.
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►740527mw.rom Conversations
Prabhupada: Yes, it will go on, but when they will see that your ideal
community is better than city life, people will take to it. Param
drstva nivartate. When one gets a better standard of life, naturally
he will give up the lower standard of life.
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►740528mw.rom Conversations
So you have to set up real human society in a small scale so people will
see, "Yes." Because man has got intelligence. Just like, although I am
... my preaching. So why you are coming? So if you stick to your
position, real human civilization, people will come, gradually.
Because they have got the sense....
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Prabhupada: No, there is no question of extended. You keep yourself in
a limited solution. And then, when it is appreciated it will be
automatically extended. You don't touch the extended. You become ideal
civilized man. Others will follow.
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740602mw.gen Conversations 364211/530501
Prabhupada: Wasteful, yes. Therefore I say they have no brain. All,
they are rascals. Rascal leaders. A little labor in agriculture will
be sufficient to produce the family's food stock for the whole year.
You can stock. You work only three months, and you get sufficient food
for your whole family. And less nine months, you chant Hare Krsna. But
these rascals will not do that. They will work hard like ass simply
for eating. Nunam pramattah kurute vikarma yad indriya-pritaya
aprnoti. They will not accept easy life.
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740605r2.gen Conversations
Prabhupada: Sacrifice means to satisfy God. So you satisfy God. By
God's mercy there will be sufficient rain. And when there is
sufficient rain you produce sufficient food, food grains, and both th
animals and men eat and live in God consciousness.
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►740611r2.par Conversations
Prabhupada: No, we have to make this propaganda because we are servant
of Krsna. And Krsna orders, krsi-go-raksya-vanijyam. So we must take
to agricultural work to produce food and give protection to the cows.
And if there is excess product, we trade. This simple thing we must
do. Therefore I'm anxious to take outside Paris this center. Our
people should live there peacefully, produce food grains, give
protection to the cows, and work hard. And if there is excess product,
you can make money also.
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►740611r2.par Conversations
Therefore I'm anxious to take outside Paris this center. Our
people should live there peacefully, produce food grains, give
protection to the cows, and work hard. And if ... this point. We can
make good money. We'll not be loser. Krsna conscious men, they'll be
never loser by following the instruction of Krsna. They'll live
comfortably without any material want, and tyaktva deham punar janma
naiti, and after leaving this body, go to, directly back to home...
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►740619rc.ger Conversations
Prabhupada: My idea is that all our centers should be self-supported.
We do not like that idea that for your support you have to go 100
miles to get your bread. That is a very dangerous drawback. You
produce your food locally and then support yourself. The main problem
is what to eat, where to sleep. So we get some place and support
ourself by producing our own food. We have already begun in New
Vrindaban, New..., West Virginia, Virginia, and similarly in other
centers, we are producing our food, grains, vegetables, fruits and
milk. That is sufficient.
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Prabhupada: Most unnatural life. City life, most unnatural.
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►740709mw.la Conversations
Prabhupada: (laughs) Yes. Murkhayopadeso hi prakopaya na santaye.
If you advise rascals, they'll be angry. No good result. Murkhayopadeso hi prakopaya na santaye,
payah-panam bhujanganam kevalam visa-vardhanam. So we have to become
very strong preacher. Then this movement will stay. If you simply take
the temple worship, it will not stay very
long. Just like...
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►750401mw.may Conversations
... don't distribute. You live only, till the ground and take your
food. Where is the question of distribution? Whatever you can till,
you take so much land. God has enough land. Why do you possess more?
One acre of land is sufficient
for producing your food. Why do you take more?
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►750403mw.may Conversations
There are so many land. Come here and grow food. Grow
fruit. That is... That is the desire of Krsna. Annad bhavanti bhutani.
Produce food and eat in sufficiently, be strong, and chant Hare Krsna.
That is our philosophy. Why you are producing bolts and nuts, tire and
tubes? Eat. Rascal. They do not know that first of all you must eat.
No, everyone is engaged in industry. Why? Krsna does not say that
"Take to industry." Krsna says, "Produce foodstuff." Annad bhavanti
bhutani. If you produce foodstuff, then both your animals, yourself,
will be happy, becoming strong. Why do they manufacture other things?
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►750403mw.may Conversations
Prabhupada: Therefore we are offering this place. Come here. Why do
you not come here and live with us? Then this is... The Krsna
consciousness movement is... This is the movement, that you come here,
live with us, and produce your food, produce your milk, be happy,
healthy, and chant Hare Krsna. This is our movement. Therefore we are
creating New Vrindaban and farm, and we are trying to purchase... This
is our movement, that we give you sufficient food, shelter, health,
philosophy, religion, character, everything, purity. Come here. Why
don't you come? They come here on the weekdays, and then fly away, go
away. You see? We are giving such nice room, but they will not live
here. They will go to the hubble-bubble of the city. They like to come
here. Therefore they spend so much money for gas and ...
here. They will go to the hubble-bubble of the city. They like to come
here. Therefore they spend so much money for gas and come here. But
because they are not accustomed, they go back again. Return ticket.
From hell to heaven, and again hell (laughter) Return ticket--coming
back to hell again, not going back to God.
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►760912rc.vrn Conversations
Prabhupada: No, they're thinking that so many people are coming to the
cities, how we shall provide them? That's a problem. After all
government has to supply them rations. Where is so much foodstuff? And
if they are not supplied, then there will be resentment. That's a
fact. What they are doing in the city, so many scooter (makes motor
sound), going here and there. Actually no engagement. The girls are
loitering in the street by dressing. It will become more and more
problems, city life. So this is the solution, that they must go back
to the village. But they are trained up to enjoy the facilities,
so-called facilities, of the city. They are not going to village. But
if we can introduce this hari-sankirtana, and if they have little
taste, that is success. It's a great program. And that taste will
come--ceto-darpana-marjanam. If he simply becomes little sober that "I
want to eat, I have to sleep, I want some sense enjoyment and defense.
So if I can get easily in the village, why shall I go three hundred
miles away? Just keep in mind the psychology. So that simple life will
be possible if one is bhakta. Bhaktih paresanubhavo viraktir anyatra
syat. Only by devotion. Not by otherwise. Not by artificial means, by
manufacturing toilet. Only bhakti. If they get little attachment for
Krsna the questions will be solved automatically. And they will be
happy. Undoubtedly. That is the
Caitanya Mahaprabhu's first instruction. Ceto-darpana.
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Prabhupada: Yes, also. Otherwise, we have seen in our childhood how
happy people were. They were. Simple. If one has five rupees income
per month he's happy. I've seen it. Husband, wife, a small family. If
he has got five rupees income, they can maintain very nicely, happily.
Why not? Suppose he has got five rupees income. The rice was selling
at four rupees. So two person, say one-fourth kg., one-fourth share
each. A gentleman cannot eat more than that. So means half a share.
And the whole month, fifteen share. It is about one rupee eight annas.
And further, one rupees eight annas add for vegetables and other
things. With three rupees they can maintain, the husband and wife. And
two rupees still there. He can spend for other purposes. I have seen
it. Fresh vegetables, rice, this and... Just like with banana leaf.
The pots were of earthen, the wife is cooking and she's utilizing dry
foliage as fuel, a little temperature, everything is cooked. The
husband takes one banana leaf and spreads, and the wife gives
sufficient rice, vegetables. And things were so cheap. I have seen it.
And fresh.
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►760916rc.vrn Conversations
Prabhupada: Otherwise, within the village you can get everything.
Village economy. Everything very cheap. And as soon as they got these
transport facilities, the local men, they could not eat, and these
lazy rascals, they are getting everything. Big, big cities like
Calcutta, Bombay, they (have) millions of population. They are not
producing anything. The producer is different man. They are simply
artificially cheating them by paper money and they ...
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►760926rc.vrn Conversations
... other important members said, "Why Abhaya Babu is living
separately? He should be the president of the Bombay." I never said,
but they said. I was living separately. Then Prabhupada ... ll do
himself everything. You haven't got to recommend him." These very
words. (break) ...Krsna require any president or any GBC. He's giving
chance to everyone, that's all. Otherwise thousands of presidents and
thousands of GBC may come and go, His work will go on. Krsna is
complete Himself. He doesn't require anyone's help. That is Krsna.
(break) ...sei hetu pracara. One who has got life, he can preach.
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►761016iv.cha Conversations
... Bhagavad-gita, krsi-go-raksya vanijyam vaisya-karma svabhava-jam.
That you must produce enough food grains by agriculture and give
protection to the cows. That means if you have got enough food grains
to eat and if you have got enough milk to get fatty substance, then
your whole economic question is solved. Annad bhavanti bhutani. If you
get sufficient food there is no question of agitation. Everyone is
satisfied. Animal and man. So you must produce. That is recommendation in the Bhagavad gita.
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►761102rc.vrn Conversations
Prabhupada: How they can defeat us? We have got so solid ground. How
they can defeat, these rascals? We consider them simply rascals and
fools. And we call them rascals and fools. What do they know of
religion? What do they know of God? They know slaughterhouse and
killing and illicit sex, and killing the fetus. That's all. What do
they know? They are not even civilized. We have come to make them
civilized. They should understand. They are not civilized. They do not
(know) how to eat even. The first principle of life is eating. They do
not know how to eat. We are teaching them how to eat. They simply
challenge, that's... When men are uncivilized, they do not how to grow
food, they kill animals in the jungle and eat. When they are
civilized, they know how to grow food now and the nice food grains,
fruit, flowers, now why should say, "You eat the meat." The
meat-eating is meant for the most uncivilized persons. That means they
do not know even how to eat. They do not know how to eat. How to eat,
how to sleep, how to have sex. Nothing. They're having sex like cats and dogs.
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Prabhupada: No, we don't care for Indians and Europeans. We care for
Krsna, that's all. I didn't care for anyone. I simply care ... s
protection, that's all. That is wanted. Guru-krsna-krpaya paya
bhakti-lata-bija. We want two favours. One from guru, one from Krsna.
That's all. We don't want anyone's favour.
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Prabhupada: :So people are being trained up to become mad, pramattah.
And do anything, bring money. This is the modern civilization. Nunam
pramattah kurute vikarma. Things which are forbidden, they are doing
that. Why? Indriya-pritaya aprnoti, only for sense gratification. They
have no other ambition. Bring money and gratify senses. This is modern
civilization. This is the exact explanation--nunam pramattah kurute
vikarma. Black money, white money, this money, that..., never mind,
bring money.
Indian Doctor: (laughter) By any way.
Prabhupada: Yes, this is modern civilization. Big man, big rich man
means bring money some way or other. This is big man. This is
Kali-yuga. Because if you have got money, you have got respect, you
have got honor, you are recognized. So therefore they are after money.
Bring money, that's all right. When I shall get money, I may have done
black money, force money, this money, nobody will remember it. Bas.
This is modern civilization. Bring money and enjoy sense. Nunam
pramattah kurute vikarma. What for it is, struggle so much working
hard? Yad indriya-pritaya. Only for the satisfaction of the senses.
They have no other ambition. Because most of them, they do not believe
there is next life. Most of them, 99.9 percent, they do not believe.
Big, big professor, I have talked with so many big, big men in Europe.
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Interviewer (5): You have some project here. Can you kindly explain
what is that?
Prabhupada: Our project is Bhagavad-gita, learn Bhagavad-gita and
apply it practically in your life.
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►760817iv.hyd Conversations
Prabhupada: Our project is Krsna consciousness. Come here, live
peacefully, keep your body fit, and work for yourself, you produce
your own food, you produce your own cloth, don't be very much anxious
for artificial
necessities, and save time, and be advanced in spiritual life.
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►760731r2.par Conversations
... little cottages, grow little vegetable, little barley or wheat and
milk. That is sufficient. We don't require much. We don't want luxury.
We want just to subsist. Yavad artha prayojana. We hate the idea of
luxury, unnecessary.
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►760802rc.par Conversations
... of how to utilize the whole land. The situation is very good, good
prospect. I want that self-independent here, as far as possible. But
you have got enough materials. With woods you can make cottages. Then
land becomes clear, then utilize it.
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►760802rc.par Conversations
Prabhupada: Plan is that we have got woods. Cut the woods, make small
cottages, and engage them for growing fruits, flowers, grains, and
make the complete arrengement nicely...
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►760802r3.par Conversations
And if there are several brahmanas, so each one of them will cook his own food. In
Calcutta, mostly the rich men they used to keep the collector's
darwans, they ... family, they used to take, accept the job. But each
of them, even in police, I have seen, they are cooking separately.
They take bath thrice, cook their own food, very strictly. The
government had to give them a big hall for cooking. So, it will not
take much space, say, little space. One small oven and demarcated:
"This, you see, is mine, and then I, you get, this is yours, this is
yours." So within that space they'll sit down and cook dal, capatis,
rice, one vegetable, and cook, and immediately all the utensils will
be cleansed and washed, and the space washed and kept. You'd like to
eat, they cook so nicely, although simple. And I have got practical
experience, if you cook your own food, whatever it may
be, it is healthy.
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►760802r3.par Conversations
.And they can make hundreds of devotees. In this
way we can expand. Are you realizing that there is no civilization?
Actually civilization we are introducing. Except Aryan civilization,
Vedic civilization, there is no civilization--animal society. What do
you think? Are you convinced about it?
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►760803r2.par Conversations
... peas, grow fresh. Eat very nicely, keep strong, drink milk, chant
Hare Krsna. Bas. Don't depend on this outside work and then gradually
become debauch, thief, rogues, prostitutes. Is that civilization? They
cannot imagine that ... go without all these things. Do they not?
Slaughterhouse, brothel, cheating, diplomacy, roguery,
drinking--without this, no civilization. We are quite opposed. We want
to show it is possible, yes. You can stop all this nonsense and still
you go on as a perfect civilized man. With character, knowledge,
satisfaction, everything......
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►760803r3.par Conversations
Prabhupada: So show the simple example that how by simple living and
thinking of Krsna, one can become perfect and
happy.
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►760812mw.teh Conversations
Prabhupada: No, that work is recommended. Your question is how Krsna
is giving you instruction. Just like food, Krsna says annad bhavanti
bhutani. You produce anna. Krsna never said that you produce
tire tubes. Never says.
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.►760714iv.ny Conversations
... So we get enough milk, enough food grains, enough
fruits. So there is no economic problem. Our purpose is to save time
from unnecessary necessities of life, from unnecessary necessities of
life, to save time and utilize the time for developing Krsna
consciousness. And so far the body is concerned, as much as it ...
is required take and maintain the body. That's all.
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Prabhupada: Yes. Farming, agriculture, that is nice. There is a
proverb: agriculture is the noblest profession. Is it not said?
Agriculture is noblest, and Krsna was farmer, His father.
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►770527rc.vrn Conversations
... There will be more water for gardening, and it will be moist, and
then produce fodder for the animals and food for you. And animal gives
you milk. That is ... .. Don't bother about big, big buildings. It is
not required. Useless waste of time. Produce. Make the whole field
green. See that. Then whole economic question solved. Then you eat ...
is beneficial. Even the stool is beneficial. Therefore I am asking so
much here and..., "Farm, farm, farm, farm..." That is not my
program--Krsna's program. Annad bhavanti bhutani. Produce greenness
everywhere, everywhere. Vrndavana. It is not this motorcar
civilization.
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►760610r3.la Conversations
Prabhupada: All fresh vegetable, fresh milk, this is celestial. Who
has got the opportunity in the city? Automatically.
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►760423rc.mel Conversations
Prabhupada: Production.... You take the total land as God's property,
and all the population, they are sons of God. Then whole problem
solved. Everything solved. If economic problem is solved, then social,
political, religious, philosophical, everything is solved.
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Prabhupada: Not only one, you hundreds of temples construct. Village
to village, town to.... At the same time, man. And it will
revolutionize the whole rascal situation. At the present moment, it is
rascal situation. They're simply satisfied by driving the motor....
putputputputputputputputput! (Prabhupada makes the sound of a roaring
motor). They are thinking, "Oh, how highly I am situated." All crazy.
But this has been taught to them that "This is civilization. If you
have got a motorcycle and you can come like the wild cat, (all laugh)
then you are civilized." They are thinking how great civilized they
are; we are thinking how wild cat he is. And what is the difference
between wild cat and running dog and this motorcycle? Put-put? What is
the difference?
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►760120mw.may Conversations
Prabhupada: A devotee will never accept materialism, even if he dies
of starvation. You'll see so many still. They are sticking ... that.
They don't care for any bodily care. "Some food comes; I shall eat.
Never mind." Still you'll find. They are sitting in their place and
chanting or meditating ...
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Prabhupada: Hm? Yes. So you have to preach all over the world that
"You are simply wasting time by so many department of knowledge. You
are so foolish, rascal." Srama eva hi kevalam. Simply wasting time. I
think I explained that to that gentleman last morning? He said in one
hour, two hour you should devote... Not two hour. Twenty-four hour.
Did I not say? Yes. Because that is the only business. We have no
other business. Our Society is practically demonstrating that this is
the only business and no other business. We therefore do not try even
to earn our livelihood. That is the natural instinct of every animal.
But we do not try even for that. Is it not?
Prabhupada: Yes. Let them see practically. We are not busy how to go
to the office, how to the business place. We are not interested. We
are simply interested for mangala arati, for class, for chanting,
dancing. That's all. Practically see. We are not going to any office
or any business.
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►751103mw.bom Conversations
Prabhupada: No, no, no. That is not the fact. If you are actually
spiritually advanced, you don't care for it. Deha smrti nahi yar
samsara bandhana kahan tanra. It is just like Raghunatha dasa Gosvami.
He had no spiritual... er, material con... He was eating ... quantity
of butter. That's all. How he was living in Vrndavana? So when one is
perfectly on the spiritual platform, there is no bodily necessities.
That is the sign.[not to be imitated, however] Therefore our civilization is to decrease the bodily
necessities, not to increase. Control. Control, from the brahmacari,
control, control, control. Ultimately completely control. That is
perfectional stage. Tyagena.(renunciation)
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